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This is Michael Walker here at the famous Computer Cafe. This is Andy Belkopf and we have a great show for you here today. Dr. Alfred Bork who is the director of the Educational Technology Center at UC Irvine is going to be talking about technology, computers, education, kids, teachers and the whole bit. It's a really fascinating area. The guy is quite an authority on these things. He really is and they do a lot of really fine things down there at UC Irvine so we're going to have a chance to hear what they're up to. Well listen guys, stay tuned. We'll be right back after this word and Andy and Dr. Bork. Word gets around fast. Word from Microsoft is quickly becoming the word processing program of choice because word is faster and easier. Most commands are executed in a single keystroke and with Microsoft's mouse not even a keystroke is needed. Just point and click. Would you like to reword that? Sure. If you've ever had to search through a 50 page document to change one word, you can appreciate Word's ability to search out and replace any character, number, word or phrase in any document, just once or as many times as you like. Windows on the word. Word gives you eight windows that allows you to edit or compare different documents simultaneously or work on different areas of the same document, all in one display. Get the word. Word is available at Software Supermarket, 16200 Hawthorne Boulevard or call 213-207-1494. That's 213-207-1494. Get the word. That's Software Supermarket, a soft sell dealer. Hi. We're here at the famous Compu the Cafe. This is Andy Velkoff and I'm sitting here with Dr. Alfred Bork who is the Director of Educational Technology Center at the University of California Irvine. Dr. Bork, welcome to the cafe. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here. Give me a little sense about what goes on at the Technology Center at UC Irvine. We are a group that develops computer-based learning material and also tries to study how to develop more effective computer-based learning material. We work in a wide variety of areas. We work some with young kids. We work some with college-level material. Much of our work has been in the science-math areas, but we are also looking at projects in very different areas of education too. Our main concern is that the computer is going to have an extremely important influence on education in the future, both in schools and universities and homes and libraries. And we want to push toward the best possible futures for education with computers. Do teachers, educators in the schools truly appreciate today, truly appreciate the potential and the effectiveness of computers in education? No, I don't think people really realize what's happening. That is, people think of the computer as another minor addition to the teaching learning equipment in schools. I think that's quite wrong. That is, the computer in one way or another is almost certain to transform the way people learn in our society. It's a new and very powerful device, and it's inconceivable to me that learning with computers is going to be mostly the same as learning without computers. But we're still at a very early stage in understanding how to use computers. We have a long way to go, and it's not even clear that we're always going to make the best decisions. We may do things that are harmful as well as things that are good. Well, what are some of the things that the computer can do? And I use that probably erroneously. I should phrase it that people can use computers to do well within the field of education. And what are some of the things that you don't feel work very well at all? Well, you have to compare what is possible with the computer with what happens today in ordinary classes. And one has to look a little bit at the history of education. If one goes back a long time in the past, say to ancient Greece, there were relatively few people that needed to be educated. And so it was relatively easy to educate people. Now we have millions of people and we regard as an essential component of a democracy that everyone should be educated, that education is a right of all individuals, that everyone should learn to their fullest capability and in all kinds of different directions. And as we've increased the number of people to learn, we've run into more and more problems. So our current system is often not a very interactive system. If there's one thing you can say for the computer as a learning device, it's going to take us back to an active learning approach, where the learner is an active participant in the learning process, not a passive spectator in that process. And because it's interactive, we can also begin to get back to individualizing education, that is making it different for each student, depending on that student's needs, that student's interest, that student's background. There's no reason that we should have the current lockstep classes that dominate education at all levels, whether it's third grade or university, where people sit passively in the room and everybody hears the same material. The computer will enable us to get back to active, individualized learning. How does industry fit in with this? I mean, there are obviously, as you develop applications, as you develop software, and this hardware is developed to facilitate that software, you're really very much dependent upon the industry to take those innovations and run with them. Do you see industry as being responsive to the developments that are happening in educational software? Yes, in many ways, many industries are very responsive, that is, it's not uniformly the case. Of course, first and foremost, one has to think of industry as interested in making a profit. And of course, that's true of almost any kind of industry. And so naturally, people see the computer as a new and eventually extremely important profit source in education, and that drives many of the major vendors and many new kinds of companies, both hardware companies, like IBM and Apple and Digital, but also software companies. I think that although it's a somewhat mixed picture, some commercial concerns have gone out for quick profits. In other cases, you have much more long-range, interesting programs. You have companies like IBM and in the software line, like the learning company and Spinnaker and Joyce Hackinson and other companies that are very serious and are very much concerned with the quality of the kinds of materials that are made available. I think the real problems are how do we move from an educational system in which the computer is still relatively little used. We have computers in schools, we have close to a million of them now in American schools, but still, our educational system is fundamentally a non-computer system, and the computer is mostly a tack on here and there. How do we move from that sort of situation to the future where the computer will be the dominant system? And I think we will have to have everybody, the federal government industry, the schools, the teachers, everyone participating in that process if we are going to be able to carry it off well. Well, we're going to take a break right now, and when we come back, I'd like to ask Dr. Bork, how do you think that would work? How could we begin to have the educational system be more responsive, more interested in utilizing the computer and utilizing that in education generally? This is Andy Velkopf, and we're here at the famous Computer Cafe talking with Dr. Alfred Bork of University of California, Irvine. We'll be back right after this. Stay tuned. Can you call? 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The one is the problem that you're suggesting, and that is what you do with the teachers who are all themselves educated before computers were important. And even today, the new teachers seldom receive much education directly related to effective use of the computer in classroom. So we have that bundle of problems. But there's a closely related collection of problems, and that is where is all the new curriculum material, all the new learning material that uses the computer going to come from. How are we going to move the country toward redesigning our courses so that we recognize from the very beginning of developing the course that the computer is one of the learning tools that we will have available? How do we, in developing these courses, what kind of roles will we have for the teachers? How will schools change? What sorts of components will move to home, for example, rather than in the school? Because much education has always taken place in the home, and perhaps the computer allows us greater flexibility there. Well, will you see some of the biggest changes happening in education such as to accommodate computer technology? Well, very different structures for classes and classes that don't have any arbitrary stopping and starting point. If you look at universities, for example, there tends to be a calculus course, an advanced calculus course, and so forth. And both all these happen in a fixed time frame. There's no reason for that. The students learn at different rates, and everybody should be able to view education as a continual process, moving at whatever rate is profitable. Some people ought to be able to get through a university curriculum in a year or two, and other people probably will take five or six years. And likewise, at all levels of education, the notion of letting people move at different paces through the material, I think, is an important notion. Another related notion is insistence on mastery. That is, don't let people go beyond a given point, a given topic, a given set of concepts, and so forth, until they've demonstrated that they really know that material. That is, get away from the notion that people move in some sort of standard pace and have your criteria for how fast they move, being, do they really demonstrate that they know that material? Absolutely. Not at the 70 percent level, not at the 80 percent level, but really at the 100 percent level. And we can do that with computers. Well, I know that in the recent years there's been rather a significant discussion and controversy over competency. Competency both on the instructional level, teacher competency exams, and also competency on the learning level. Are kids going to graduate? And there are many jurisdictions, there are many school systems across the country today that are grappling with that issue. Should they be advancing kids who they used to do, should they be giving them diplomas when they're graduating and not being able to read properly and don't have proper math skills and really don't have the types of things that they should have had all along? And that's really outside the whole technology issue. And it seems from what you're saying that here's technology that may enable school districts to address those issues, address the issue of mastery. Finally, there may be a technological solution to many of those problems. Yes, I think so. But it's not really just the technology, I emphasize. It's the development of all the new learning materials. That is, we need billions of dollars worth of development projects in order to get to the state where we can do that. We need a major national effort that's viewed as just as important as the defense effort or just as important as putting a man on the moon. It's only with that sort of effort that we will produce the kinds of good materials that we need. Also, we have to do it in our society more than once because we are a pluralistic society. We don't believe in having a single course. We want to have a variety of courses that approach it differently and that can compete in some sense. So the question is how to move the country toward a national effort of that kind so that we can really use this technology to its fullest capability. Okay, well, when we come back, I'd like to ask you about who's doing things in this area. What kind of efforts are happening? What kind of efforts are being made across the country? This is Andy Valkthoff, you're here at the famous Computer Cafe, and I've been talking with Dr. Alfred Bork. We'll be back after this message. Stay tuned, guys. This is Andy Valkthoff, and I'm here at the famous Computer Cafe. You'll see David and Betty Sun at Sun Computers in the City of Carson. They'll tell you what you need to know about D-Base 3 and more. Sun Computers is located at 20925 South Benita in Carson, or call 213-538-8338. That's 213-538-8338. Sun Computers in Carson, a soft-cell dealer. Today I'd like to discuss Multiplan by Microsoft. What's a Multiplan? It's a spreadsheet program for your IBM PC or your Macintosh. Well, what do you do with a Multiplan? Use it to make forecasts. Oh, you mean like what the weather will be? No, more like weather or not. Oh, can I join Multiplan? No, you don't join it, silly. You use it. It's a tool designed with non-computer people in mind to help you manage your business and plan for the future. A tool? Oh, you mean like a hammer? Well, if you're looking for a way to hit the nail on the head, use Multiplan to build your worksheet. Enter the formulas you normally use to do budgets or cash flow analysis or financial planning, and then let Multiplan do the calculations while you sit back and watch. Well, where can I see it? At Software Center International, located at 22543 South Hawthorne Boulevard in Torrance, or call 213-378-9225. That's 213-378-9225. Software Center International, a soft sell dealer. Hi, we're back. This is Andy Valkoff, and we're here at the famous Computer Cafe, and I've been speaking with Dr. Alfred Bork, who is the director of Educational Technology Center at the University of California, Irvine. There are a number of software vendors who are coming out with all sorts of terrific educational packages, some of which you mentioned earlier. And there's also one of the most recent developments has been the first consumer kids' computer show, Bits and Bites, which was at the Disney Hotel in Anaheim recently, in which you spoke. Do you see that as an element of education in this regard? Yes, of course I'm prejudiced here because I was involved in helping to plan what seems to me an interesting new type of program that is one that does try to bring the kids, the parents, the teachers together, and that I think was very successful, particularly in getting the vendors to develop very kid-oriented exhibits. I think the Apple and IBM exhibits were extremely impressive in the show, and certainly gave a possibility to get tremendous quick exposure on the part of both the parents and the kids to a great deal of learning material on the computer. And that's one of the difficult aspects to let people see good things, to experience them so they have some idea of what's really possible here. This is just the first of what we hope will be a whole series of shows of this kind. And I think it's gotten off to an extremely promising start. It did bring in droves of kids, and being in the exhibit area, I think for anyone, was an exciting experience. Well, I was down there, and one thing that really struck me was that it was a real hands-on experiential learning process for the kids. Do you think that's important? Yes, that is one of the things that's interesting about computers. It gets back to what I was saying about interaction. That is, the computer can be a very hands-on device. It can talk back to you. It can listen to what you're saying. It can pay attention to what your problems have been, and can make decisions based on that. And I think certainly that's very important. It does things for you. You begin to get some sense of control over the world, and some sense of being able to accomplish things, to learn things that often many students in our society don't have. So many students end up with a sort of, I can't do it, point of view. But here you can get to the environment where everyone can do it. They may be different paths. It may take different amounts of time. But everyone can do it. So it's really a question of technology, helping people to be more of who they are individually. Yes, but it's also important to stimulate interaction between individuals, not just between the individual and the computer. We have done research ourselves in how many people should work together at the computer display. And we recommend that, except in test-taking situations, that two or three people be together there. And you get beautiful human interaction going on. And peer learning, where the students are teaching each other, as well as being taught by the computer. So the computer, in a sense, can increase the human contact in our classes and in other learning environments in a way that's very difficult to do, given the current sizes of classes. So do you do that with just one keyboard, with kids taking turns at it? Or are they using more than one keyboard and one monitor? Well, of course, you can do it in different ways. We have done it ourselves, mostly with single keyboards and with single computers, single monitors. The earlier uses of that sort of thing were material that behaves the same, no matter how many people are at the display. And if a question is asked, then there's a sort of natural discussion among the students before somebody is going to type in the answer. Some groups share the keyboard, others strive for control of the keyboard. It differs a lot with different groups. And some of our recent materials were, again, using single keyboard, single display. But we start out by finding out how many people are there and finding out how to address those people. And the program will behave differently if there's one person there or three people there. And it will explicitly address different people at different times to get them involved in the process. So then, even though there's one keyboard, different people will be typing at different times because different people are addressed. Well, we've just about run out of time. And, you know, there's never really enough time to address all of these things here at the cafe. But I would like to ask you, where do you see the future of educational computing? Where are we headed? I mean, I know there are a lot of questions and a lot of options and some things we've spoken about as in order to do various things you need, you feel that there should be programs in the schools and whatnot. Where do you see it going in the next, say, five years? Well, I think we're at something like a Y in the road or close to a Y in the road. And although I wax eloquently about what computers could do for us, I try to make it clear when I talk with people that it's not certain that they will do those things. That is, we can go down one fork of the road and essentially continue our current educational system with all of its problems, with the problems getting gradually worse, the computer being used heavily, but not being used in the best ways. Then we have the other fork of the road where the computer can lead to a new, exciting educational system for all of our children, for all of our adults, because adult education is increasingly important, too. And the question, as I see it, in the direction of the road is a question of national priorities. That is, are we willing to spend the money, the resources, the people, the talent to move down the good fork in the road? I don't regard that as a settled issue yet, and I think we, all of us, in working with computers in education have to maintain high standards to try to push us in the positive directions. Technology itself is neutral. It can be used well, it can be used poorly, and we want to learn to use it well in education. Well, it looks like we're really at choice about it, and it's for us to choose as a society. Dr. Bork, I want to thank you for joining us. Thank you for coming down to the cafe. As things develop and as new developments in education and educational technology come about, we'd love to have you back here at the cafe and be our guest. Thank you, and I'll be happy to come back. Okay, this is the famous Computer Cafe. I'm Andy Velkoff, and we've been talking with Dr. Alfred Bork, who's the director of the Educational Technology Center at the University of California, Irvine. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after this. SuperCalc 3 by Sorsum is a spreadsheet that's extremely easy to use, swift and powerful, and it's priced lower than most other leading spreadsheet programs. SuperCalc 3 has all the built-in functions expected in a high-quality spreadsheet, and a lot more. SuperCalc 3's features include an on-screen help function, spreadsheet consolidation and sorting capabilities, calendar and date calculations, simple data management, functions, and windowing. 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Of course, you guys know that you can hear us every day here at 10 o'clock in the morning on KFOX, and of course, of 730 to 8 o'clock every evening here on 93.5. That's Monday through Friday on Weekdays, folks. We are Soft TV, Inc. This famous computer cafe is a production of Soft TV, Inc. Executive Producers Michael Walker, Ellen Walker, and Andy Velkow. We'll see you tomorrow. 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